What would you expect to pay for the ultimate replica of a 1975 Don Post Captain Kirk mask? That all depends on who you are I guess. Some people look at a piece of latex and scoff at the idea of paying over $100 dollars (after all it is a piece of rubber, right?). Others look at masks as pieces of art....
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Well recent news from Nikolas Art Gallery (N.A.G.) has surfaced on Michael-Myers.net and apparently there is a new 2 thousand dollar Kirk mask on the way. You read that right, 2 THOUSAND DOLLARS. My first car cost $400 more that that. :-) Forgive me if I'm off base here but is $2,000 not just a tad bit ridiculous for what your getting here? This looks to be a cast of an original 1975 Kirk (which has been done quite a number of times before).
Don' t get me wrong though, this is an outstanding mask. Nikolas owner of N.A.G. is an extremely gifted artist and sculptor and some would argue that he is the best white mask creator out there. Everything on this Kirk seems to line up great and it might just be as close as your going to get to owning an original. Notice I said close to owning an original. This isn't an original Captain Kirk mask, this is a reproduction. Meaning if someone wanted to they could take this mask and copy it a thousand times and no law would protect you or your investment. Is this unethical in the mask world? Of course it is. Has this ever been done before? You know it has.
So this begs the question do we really need this. Is there not already enough solid masks out there for $300 or $400 to pull off the look of Michael Myers? Hell even if you spend a grand and a half for a Dennis Beckstrom or a Ken Hertlein mask your still saving money.
I am a Myers mask fan. I own quite a few fantastic replicas myself. I have spent a lot of money on Myers masks in my day. But are the days of $1,000 and $2,000 Myers masks behind us? There are only 10 of these masks going into production. There may be 10 people out there with enough money to spend it on one of these and they may be happier than all get out to be able to do so. I just don't see it personally and with the new era of buying a mask and having it converted by one artist and haired by another to achieve the perfect look was this really necessary?
This all comes back to my earlier statement. Masks that sell for this kind of money are looked at as pieces of art. Having an artist sculpt a mask with all the intricate detail and originality that they bring to the table one might expect to pay what essentially is a down payment on a car. But is that same down payment worth it when your talking about another Captain Kirk mask?
Maybe I'm way off base here. Someone talk me down, I would love to hear what you think....
The mask on the left and right are original Don Post 1975 Captain Kirk masks. The mask in the middle is the new $2,000 NAG Kirk mask.
The two pics below are from MM.net user ColdBlooded Killer
best looking one i have seen so far though.
I am now going to sculpt a Kirk, if he can make it look good then so can I. I think this is fuckin ridiculous. Myers fans, I will derail this injustice, just give me 2 months. They will be under a $100. I am not kidding. This myers mask outrageous price shit just knocks me the fuck over in disgust.
Rather than catering to fans, we get the few who think they'll get rich off of someone elses merits.
Now it is my personal goal to flood the market with a really fuckin nice sculpted Kirk/Myers.
"This isn't an original Captain Kirk mask, this is a reproduction. Meaning if someone wanted to they could take this mask and copy it a thousand times and no law would protect you or your investment. Is this unethical in the mask world? Of course it is. Has this ever been done before? You know it has."
I think there should be a petition drawn up to really show how serious the consumer really is. If you get enough people to go along with it, some of these artists will have no choice, but to change they're greedy ways.
Think about it. It can be done if you guys really want it bad enough.
Now, when it's time for this guy to make another Kirk/Myers mask, will he then lower the price back to, say 300.00. Well if he does that, then most people will think that this 300.00 mask doesn't quite have all the effort put into it as the mask that cost 2K. Why would anyone want something that is less in quality?
This guy is already starting to feel the backlash. Wheather it has any effect, only time will tell. If enough people make a stand against these BS prices, I think progress can be achieved.
Best of luck selling those masks!!!
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So don't blame Nik for going for the cash grab. Blame the idiots out there that will pay him for that cash grab. Do you people realize that you could get a REAL sculpter like Jordu Schell or even KNB to sculpt a Kirk for that price and it would be perfect? Shit it won't matter soon anyway. Someone will recast it and sell tons of them for 300.00 dollars and the fools that paid the 2k will be screwed because Nik copied that one too.
Enjoy what they've done here. Keep paying high prices for nothing!
I also heard a rumor that after Terry Lambert stole Jay Allen's Kirk he sold it to Nik and that's how he SUDDENLY can do so well sculpting a Kirk mask.
Think about it. Since Terry no longer has Jay's Kirk. Who could use it? It could never be shown anywhere because it would be recognized. The only person that could use that mask would be a mask maker.
Nik says he has to charge so much for the circumstances that he went thru to make that mask. There you go. He paid for Jay's Kirk and now he has to make the money bak.
You Myers collectors can enjoy enjoy what you've done now to the hobby.
You backed a thief like Terry Lambert who is now Filing for bankruptcy to try and hide from the people he stole money from.
So far, 2 masks have sold. 2 Kirks, I believe. If all 10 of these masks sell, then there is no telling what might happen in the not so distant future with these masks. If one artist is able to achieve this goal, whos to say that another artist won't come by and try they're hand at the same stradegy.
This is a low time right now. STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nik also keeps getting better and better. I don't think this is his wall. This pays his bills and it is a cash cow, so he'll keep putting them out there. When artists get caught up w/ the Myers bug the money and fame can consume them. I've seen it over and over again. Nik has also promised limited runs in the past and has gone back on his word to make more masks w/out asking the original run buyers if it was ok. It was done behind the scenes. He may feel that is ok to do, but many frown upon it and feel slightly cheated to be honest. People rush out there to buy these limited masks at these high prices because they think it's the END ALL and they'll miss out if they don't. But the definition of END ALL is "another will top it within a year".
I personally am buying the Hoffman/Medley Kirk and Myers for 2k total. This is b/c I get a mask that originated from a clay press of a rare MINT 75 Kirk. This has never happened in the hobby before so it's huge imo! We all have seen plenty of Myers come from Kirkus' converted 75 and they're great, but something is still off on those masks (probably b/c it originates from a different mold). Bry is also doing every thing he can to make these masks close to perfect. I feel more comfortable paying a big chunk of change for a mask where I know of its origins and it holds a big part of 'history' moreso than I do paying for a Mystery mask that looks accurate. Call me crazy... Who honestly doesn't think Nik will EVER put out a more accurate Kirk? And if he does, what will the price tag be? Is he setting a NEW standard for accuracy? As it keeps getting closer will the prices continue to rise?
How can anyone justify that with a straight face.
I did NOT pay 2k for my Kirk mask. You dont know anything about what I paid or even IF i paid, so unless I told you I suggest you stop tossing out private information that is NOT accurate.
People wonder why I dont post in the myers community. Reason: Everyone is a know it all and runs their mouth.
I personally love myers masks but i don't love the myers mask community. Everybody thinks they're reading between the lines when they're just being judgemental. Everybody "talks"...
Stop talking & do something. Buy it or dont buy it. Recast it or dont recast it. Dont get mad because the "industry" u love is being oversaturated with more myers fans. Thats what happens. CLEAR YOUR GOGGLES, SHARPEN YOUR TOOLS, & STEP YOUR GAME UP.
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