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Halloween 2 Spoiled?

A few "supposed" pre-screenings of Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 took place in New York and L.A. recently. Fan reviews are hitting the net and it's stirring up the slasher community. So what did these reviews say? Good or bad? Read more to find out!

Follow up:




I'll hold my opinions until I see the film myself but feel free to read these SPOILER heavy reviews below. These reviews are not the opinions or feelings of Horrorbid, they are taken from fan reactions to pre-screenings of Halloween 2 shown earlier this week. Again, these are MASSIVE SPOILERS and will ruin the entire movie if you read.


Taken From broadwayworld.com
Let me start off by saying that even though I'm a horror movie fanatic it?s been maybe 15 years since I've seen the original HALLOWEEN 2. I remembered not liking it very much and even though I still consider the first in the series the best horror film ever made, nothing ever really drew me back to part two. So besides a few fuzzy memories of it, I went into the film last night being able to take a real unbiased look at a remake. I'll run it down and go through the film for anyone interested (All of it being spoilers so if you don't want to know what happens in the movie stop reading HERE). Remember that I'm sure some of this will change by the time it hits theaters later this summer, especially after the focus group met and gave opinions after the film. I'll mention what we/they thought during the review, as well for those interested.
The movie opens with Laurie, bloody, walking down the street. Sheriff Brackett finds her and takes her to the hospital (I remember the hospital scene taking place towards the end of the original, correct me if I'm wrong but in any case it?s the beginning here.) The next 15 minutes, besides being WAY too loud, to the actual point where I had a bit of a headache afterwards are really fantastic and I had hoped would set the film up very nicely.
Zombie chooses to show us most of the gore in this one scene and for the rest of the film shows a lot of restraint in what he shows, letting our minds do most of the work which I really appreciated. Nowadays a lot of directors think blood and guts = scares which just isn't true.
We spend the next 20 minutes or so getting to know this new grunge Laurie (who now lives with her friend Annie and the Sheriff) and her friends who work at a book/record/indie type store and we learn they looove to party. The characters are really your standard issue, cookie cutter horror movie characters and you can pretty much pinpoint who will die and in what order. After this we see Loomis who has become a real media whore and a just an all around ****after the release of his book about Michael, which is doing a media tour for and just happens to be somewhere near Haddonfield, IL where they film a major late night talk show. Lucky him. He's no longer a sympathetic character he is now just a famous diva who only cares about himself and his new career and let me say the focus group and the end was more than vocal about how much they hated this.
Interspersed through all of this are visions Michael has with his mother (the gorgeous Sherri Moon Zombie), a white horse and the younger version of himself guiding him to kill more so they can all finally be together. This might work in a different film but the problem here is that Laurie is having visions of them, too. The same visions. This is never explained or touched upon and even when she learns she's Michael's sister, if this was supposed to mean they were all connected in some way, it still doesn't make any sense. As much as I love her, Michael's mother has no business being in this movie at all. About 90% of the people in the focus group said they didn't like her scenes at all which weren't many to begin with and I'm sure will now be sliced down pretty heavily.
As you guess right after we meet the characters, Michael starts killing again. Obviously he needs to get through people to get where he's going, but too many scenes were set up just to kill someone with no further advancement of a plot you could tell they desperately were trying to do something with - including scenes in a strip club stomping a mans face until it's just meat, taking a naked stripper by the hair and smashing her into a mirror until she goes bye-bye, not to mention Michael killing a dog, gutting it and eating it?s insides. Let me just say that when I got the chance last night I let them know just how unnecessary that was and every single person there said that needed to be cut out immediately. I'm hoping it is because it?s something that I really should have walked on the film because of.
Soon after, Laurie discovers she's Michael's sister and all hell breaks loose. She does a LOT of screaming in this movie, almost to the laughable point which she does most of in the next few scenes. She tells her friends she needs to go out and PAR-TAY which we all know means Dead Friends so when Harley (the slut of the group) goes to a random man's van, you don't have to be a genius to know what will happen. That scene is so predictable and so stupid pretty much everyone agreed afterwards it was just too much. When you can count down to when the attack will happen you know your movie has become too formulaic.
After this, Michael decides to visit the house of our dear friend Annie who until this point has had a decent amount of screen time cooped up in her house. When she opens that medicine cabinet you don?t have to be a rocket scientist to know what she'll see when she closes it! Cut to a few minutes later, Laurie and her only living friend now, Maya (the beautiful Brea Grant who plays Daphne on HEROES) both completely drunk go back to Annie's house to crash but there's a big mess there so being as bright as they are they know something is wrong. Maya is the first to get hers, when she goes downstairs alone to call 911. Luckily Laurie escapes the house and runs into the woods (because when you're being chased by a killer you obviously run into the woods) where dagnabit, she gets caught by Michael and taken to an old shack. Now, she must have been in there for quite a while because we cut to Loomis in a swanky hotel (obviously in town) after he just finished his talk show appearance opposite Weird Al, where he sees the breaking news that Michael Myers (not the same Michael Myers from the Austin Powers films as Weird Al points out) is at it again. Loomis rushes to the site where poor Laurie is screaming again being held by her brother while we see Mommy and Little Michael watching her. Loomis informs her that nobody is holding her which we now see is true. Michael is on the other side of the barn and she's just imagining she?s being held. The word HUH came to mind last night. Michael slices up ol? Loomis but I couldn?t pay much attention to that because I was still trying to figure out how and WHY Michael and Laurie had been having the same visions of young Michael and the Mother the entire movie.
Anywho, long story short Laurie stabs Michael, and walks out of the barn wearing her Halloween costume (she was dressed as Magenta from ROCKY HORROR) and Michael's mask which elicited a LOT of laughter, seeing this little girl with this enormous mask on. We than cut to Laurie in a white room. Is she in a mental institution? I didn't think so, but others did. We see her look up and see Mrs. Myers walking towards her with the same white horse we've seen her with the whole movie. Laurie gives an evil little smile and the film ends.
So a good part of the discussion after was spent on that last scene. To me and a lot of other people it made no sense and was just, well, stupid. The fact that you think Laurie has turned bad for no reason at all didn't sit well with people because A.) It's not who the character is and B.) there is no reason for it. She's had nothing happen to her to turn HER into a killer now.
A lot was also said afterward about the fact that we see a lot of Michaels face in this film. He has a very long beard and looks a lot like Zombie, himself which I wasn't sure if that was on purpose or not. But to me and most others there this isn't a good thing. Humanizing Michael doesn't make him more scary, it makes him completely unbelievable. If we see him as just a regular guy, how are we to believe he can survive having his body bashed with baseball bats, bullets, etc and just get right back up again and keep killing. In the films current state, he is more like Jason, not Michael.

Taken From IMDB Message Boards: First ever audience screening of the movie was last night. Rob Zombie was there but not announced. He walked down the aisle next to me and stood at the alcove near the entrance for most of the movie. Let me first say A.) The horror genre is my favorite genre. B.) I do not like Rob Zombie movies. As for this movie . . . Terrible. The whole purpose of Rob Zombie movies is to present a sense of ultra-realism through ultra-violence. And yet he opted for this rediculously stupid Mother/Horse storyline, where grown up michael myers channels through 8 yo michael myers and follows his mother and horse through the movie, doing her bidding. But my biggest complaint was the volume. SO loud it hurt my ears. I don't wanna sound like an old man, but when i muffled my ears and watched parts of the movie at a normal volume level, there was nothing scary about it at all. The death scenes (apart from a fantastic face stomping) were unoriginal. Everything was just loud. Knife stabs and baseball bats to crying sobs, everything was put up to 11. The acting was atrocious. The script was worse. Here's a paraphrasing of the opening scene. (by the way, the mother and 8 y/o michael were the worst actors in the group. And i realize the mother is rob zombie's wife. Just picture Jake Lloyd and Sofia Coppola acting this out): Opening scene. Interior psychiatric ward interogation room with two way mirror MOM - I brought you something puts white plastic horse on table MM - it reminds me of a dream i had MOM - what was the dream MM - you were with a white horse, walking away from me MOM - I'm not going any where sweetie MM - I wanna go home MOM - you will, soon, and we'll be a family again MM - cries MOM - hey, are you tickelish? MM - no MOM - i bet you are (tickles, MM laughs) MOM - there's the face i wanna see UGH! i could barely watch this film, not because it was gross, but because it was so bad. BEST PARTS! yay! something good about the film. Weird Al was great playing Weird Al. Some great laughs. And the Sheriff was a highlight to the film. I liked all of his scenes, although the audience inexplicably laughed when he was crying. Didn't get that. Some good news, for anyone still reading. I was surrounded by people who loved it. My brother and my only assertion was that these people had never seen a good horror movie before. So if you liked Rob Zombies movies, and you have never seen a good movie before, you'll love this one. Bring ear plugs. Scout was actually pretty good. I felt bad for her though because she spent most of the movie sobbing and crying and spurting obsenities. But she was pretty good. Some weird acting spots where she's sober, but then she's drunk, and then she's sober, and then she's drunk. Didn't follow her sometimes. The punk girls were not in it very much. A decent scene where they go to a halloween party, but their dialog was so contrived. as if to say "this is how girls talk" -Michael Myers gets his sister (Scout) out of a wrecked car and into a shed for some unknown reason. There are the halucinations of the mother and 8 yo and horse UGH. the wind picks up and lights flash as the mother demands the daughter say "i love you mother" Michael silently watches from the corner. Helicopters hover, the shed is surrounded. Malcolm McDowell is watching from his hotel room live on tv. Decides to do something good with his life, and like a flash miraculously apears at the crime scene. Sheriff is pissed at him, tries to get him out, but he goes into the shed to have one last talk with Michael. Mother doesn't like the intrusion, Michael kills McDowell, Sheriff Shoots Michael, Laurie(Angel Myers)(Scout) cries and hugs michael he looks like he's going to killer but drops his knife. She picks it up and stabs him in the heart. She comes out of the shed wearing his mask. Ends with her smiling in an insane asylum seeing her mother and white horse in the room with her. -Annie dies but you don't see it she sees michael, slowly steps back in horror out of frame and you hear crashing. Later she's found nude and completely bloody. Annie barely has a chase scene, she gets graphically killed, not much to see on that one. -Harley dies in the van trying to have sex with an inexperienced warewolf -Mya does die she's trying to call 911 and runs out of hte house to check the house number and is stabbed. -One of the cool things i wish they had shown more of, is what does Michael Myers do for the year he's on the Lam. How does he comingle with us? They show him constantly walking through fields like Caine, and one scene he eats a dog. But he spends most of the year looking like a bum. I would have liked to see more of that.







32 comments

Fred
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07/23/09 @ 23:36
Its no surprise or shock that this movie bombed. Please Rob go away!
Adam
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07/24/09 @ 00:34
Wow, I was expecting something better. Every one has there own view on things but from what I have read here this seems like nothing but pure confusion. Sounds like there may have been a problem with the editing, sound is really loud and scenes jump around. I will still go see this but I never liked the idea of Micheal being told to kill by his mother. Isn't that Jason? Why would he walk around without his mask and look normal, he was shot in the face in the last movie. I hope it is better than what it seems.
Funny Bones Email
07/24/09 @ 08:18
"i won't do a part 2..." I can live with the huge story changes in Halloween, but this crap needs to end. We already had this movie and all the other remakes. Either make sequals that move the story OR create an origonal idea. Back to RZ, his firsts are ok, but the follow ups suck ass... House rocked - devils blew, Hellbillys album rocked - the remix of the album blew, Halloween was average - H2... BLEW ASS!
G
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07/24/09 @ 09:53
WHAT A STUPID MOVIE! RZ FUCKED UP BIG TIME!
avery mcreynolds · http://MySpace.com
*****
07/24/09 @ 11:12
Ok ok ok. It was a very fucking good film... you all hate it cause u arent smart ebough to write something like it... u r all so dumb that you think u can do a film better... try... i fucking dare you to make one better. {all HALLOWEEN films are great and different}
ishothim6times!
07/24/09 @ 11:59
avery mcreynolds, trust me, I would absolutely love to make a Halloween movie and I know it would be 100X better and more thought of than this piece of ass movie. I'm I ever get into the movie making business, I will remake Halloween the way fans have been wanting to see it for years.
horror hero
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07/24/09 @ 12:54
Everybody needs to stop hating on Rob Zombie.
07/24/09 @ 16:18
I have learned to take screener reviews with a grain of salt. Some people just can't be happy with anything and go in with a hateful attitude which can really alter their experience. On the other hand the same can go with a positive reviews.

I have heard great reviews of screeners of movies like Wrong Turn 2 and Hatchet and those movies are pieces of dung.

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07/24/09 @ 18:04
well i already knew how the story was ganna happen, and i think its cool and sorta original.
Anyways some of these people need to be put back in line with all their cussing and vulgar language. The motto for horrorbid forums should be " u aint got nothing nice to say dnt say it" because you people arent tough talking like that over the computer. Remember that next time you want to comment some one/thing.
p.s. Anytime i read a reveiw i flip it over and if its bad its good. Because lots of gereat movies get bad reviews
fuckup
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07/24/09 @ 19:02
THE GOD DAMN POINT IS THE FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT MOVIE SUCKS FUCKING ASS U TO DAMN FUCKIN PUSSIE TO ADMIT ASS FUCK WIPE FAGET BASTARD... GET THE DAMN POINT B4 I TAKE MY FIST AND RAM IT DOWN UT PIECE OF GARBAGE ASS MOUTH.

ALL H2 HATERS I STAND N LINE WITH. AMEN TO U MY BROS.
HALLOWEEN ALL THE WAY
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07/24/09 @ 19:04
That rite fuckup ur the man and h2 does suck ass.

these dumb shits don't understand. there retards.......
classicmm
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07/24/09 @ 19:13
okay the 7 foot tall green giant being myers makes me wanna puke.

the classic has been turn to white trash by no other than your truly rob trash zombie. oh and he will be doing h3 come on thats fucking stupid shit.
cykills
07/25/09 @ 02:23
couple things:

a) curse of thorn worked, and better than this Jason family bullshit. Curse of Thorn is kind of like Sherly Jackson's "The Lottery", except here one person must kill there whole family for the cult to prosper. it adds an acult deal that actually means something with Halloween, and explains his eternal life..or whatever; hence all the retconned halloween sequels.. well done or not.

b)zombie said he had 6 hours of shit; there better be 2+ hours that these people didnt see, that has Thorne, drops the mom bullshit, and has something to do with Halloween.
john
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07/25/09 @ 07:54
agree man!

h6 is a preti good movie. i would say h4 is probably my 3rd since h1-2 is on tops. of course classics only.
M-1 of Mastamindz · http://www.mastamindz.com
07/25/09 @ 23:57
We kinda saw this coming when the unrated version of HALLOWEEN 1 had the 2 guys in Michaels jail cell raping the girl picking on myers....like how fucking stupid was that? I loved the first one but seeing the unrated version made me see where he wanted to really go..i hope he switches some shit up cause he can make a masterpeice if he wanted to...its easy to make Halloween a good movie...DON'T FUCK IT UP
Darkartist81
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07/26/09 @ 14:35
I don't understand how it can be hard to make a decent Halloween film. I really like RZ as a musician and he can make a decent horror film if it has certain elements. But Halloween was wrong for him from the start, unless he was able to drop his usual comfort trappings and do something new. But he didn't, as we all well know. Halloween has always been a series that I thought as being insanely easy to write. Michael is a force of nature, purely evil, and mysterious. He cannot and should not EVER be fully explained and should never really have a motive. Once they added in the family element, the series suffered greatly for it. If they would have just killed Laurie off and released Michael once and for all, he could truly be the Boogeyman he was always meant to be. Michael would be that haunting killer who came around during the season to show people the true nature of Halloween. He would be a force of nature, a hand of fate...and the films would be incredibly interesting from that point on. You could write many different stories that would defy the genre, and *gasp* Michael could actually win at the end of some of them.

God I wish I could make movies myself....
thatdoomguy666 · http://www.horrorbid.com
07/30/09 @ 10:34
TO CYKILL:

What are you fucking talking about?

a)Thorne sucked so much ass. IT WAS THE WORST THINK TO HAPPEN TO HALLOWEEN (besides Busta Rymee).

b) Again, what are fucking talking about? He NEVER said that. And a remake with thorne in it, ARE YOU A FUCKING IDIOT?? YOUD MAKE THE FUCKING FILMS SUCK MORE THAN THEY ALREADY DO!!!!
sami
07/31/09 @ 10:02
ok...i actually liked halloween 6. and also hated the halloween reessurection that was just dumb....anywhoo after reading the reviews i am staying away from this pos movie. i did to went to see rz 1st halloween with a open mind, but nah that sucked....and now this is a pos sequel. and ya this does remind me of jason with the mommy thing. and laurie
sami
07/31/09 @ 10:03
ok...i actually liked halloween 6. and also hated the halloween reessurection that was just dumb....anywhoo after reading the reviews i am staying away from this pos movie. i did to went to see rz 1st halloween with a open mind, but nah that sucked....and now this is a pos sequel. and ya this does remind me of jason with the mommy thing. and the ending just sounds freaking retarded.
*****
08/09/09 @ 02:46
I think that this movie is really good, different, but good! But there is not possible to see this movie before 28th August, right? (I really want to see it)
Eddie
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08/27/09 @ 19:31
I can't believe how awful this movie was, I want my money back! I hope you are reading this Rob because its time to go away. Your music hasnt been the same since White Zombie and you are completely lost without your original band. In my opinion the only movie you ever made worth watching was house of 1000. No more I beg of you.
08/28/09 @ 14:14
I don't know what everyone's problem is. I was blown away. Watch it for its cinematic brilliance. The story was absolutely amazing, and much more creative than the original sequel was. The death scenes were 150% more violent than the remake. And for people who didn't understand Laurie and the mask...SHE'S LOST HER FUCKING MIND. Not only do I think this blows away his re-make, but I'll say it was one of the most terrifying films I've seen in a long time. I suggest you watch it again, and don't wish you were seeing it your way, but digest this story he's trying to tell you. Amazing.
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09/07/10 @ 11:35
Thanks for the write up, how about a follow up for those of us that read this 10 years too late. You never cease to amaze me!
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