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The Halloween Franchise: Remaking the Remake

Sometimes one wishes for the winds of change to come but instead are greeted by a gentle breeze that translates into remakes and reboots. With this topic being butchered to death over the past few years we won’t bore you with another rant about how originality is dead and Hollywood only cares about money. That story has been written. What we do want to talk about is the remaking of remakes...


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Which oddly is something that we aren't sure any of us expected so soon. What do we mean by that? We’re not naive in thinking that if a film can be remade once that somehow puts it into an untouchable category that makes it off limits for future attempts at remaking the same movie. We just didn’t think it would happen for another 10 to 20 years. Obviously our heads were in the clouds because Hollywood is remaking remakes and the trend seems to be in an infant stage. One that will only grow no doubt and be built upon. With comic book movies seeing the remake of the remake treatment with films like Superman, The Hulk, and Spider-man, is it really that far fetched of an idea that horror movies are next? Texas Chainsaw Massacre was what many consider the start of the horror remake boom and talks are hot and heavy to reboot the franchise once again.

So are we losing creativity here? Has Hollywood lost its touch? The answer is no. Creativity is at an all time high and with technology gaining access into an ever growing number of homes and business any Joe Schmo with an internet connection and half a brain can write a screen play that would probably rival half of the dreck that makes it to the silver screen these days. So with creativity not lacking why aren’t we seeing new ideas and brand new ideas flourishing on the screen, in games, and even in the music industry? The answer lies in the bottom line. The almighty dollar.

A proven franchise is not only less risk but guaranteed money. If you slap the name Friday the 13th on a film or Halloween you're guaranteeing 20 million at the box office right off the bat. Why not take the easy path? If you had a few million dollars to spend on a project would you want to take a gamble on (insert cheesy movie title here) or a franchise that has millions of fans? It’s a no brainier and who are we to argue with Hollywood for doing something each and everyone of us would do if we were in the same place. We would take the safe bet. Most of us would anyway. It’s those few of us that wouldn’t that will push the envelope and create art and a new fan base. The sad fact of the matter is for every 30 films those creative artists make, 29 will fail and loose money. It takes all the stars to lineup perfectly to create another Halloween or Friday the 13th. It isn’t something that just happens. Many chase that dream never to realize it.

Where are we going with this you ask? We’ll we’ve mentioned the film Halloween. We’ve seen Rob Zombie take the film and re-imagine it. Some loved it and others loathed it. Regardless of your feelings, he certainty put his own flare on the series. Something that we can applaud for the simple fact that at the very least he created his own vision. But that also has us thinking. With Rob Zombie’s Halloween 2 not performing well at the box office, the Weinstein Brothers reported that Halloween 3 in 3D would be in the development stages. That news broke on the weekend Rob’s H2 came out. It took many of us in the industry by surprise but it also made sense. It gave fans that hated the film something to hang their hats on, hoping that the series may once again take a different turn. The director and writer of My Bloody Valentine 3D, Patrick Lussier and Todd Farmer, were signed on and the film was all but a done deal. Fast forward a week or two later and the project was canceled. It left many of us scratching our heads wondering why the fast axe? We’ve heard nothing about the project since and we are beginning to put the puzzle together on why that may be.

We go back to where this story started…remakes. How unlikely would a remake of the Halloween franchise for a second time be? Not that unlikely and we feel strongly that something might just be in the works. Again Rob Zombie gave the Halloween series a shot in the arm that it needed. A different look and feel. A very gritty, dirty look and feel that only Rob Zombie can do, and do well. He created his version of Halloween but that was his vision. Michael Myers is a character that was built in the suburbs. An old fashioned 50’s mid western setting with fall leaves blowing in the wind and kids carving jack-o-lanterns on the porch. Something so innocent. A time that many of us remember as a child trick or treating or at the very least picture in our mind when thinking of the holiday. But that fun and exciting time turned so brutal when the character of Michael Myers was unleashed and started terrorizing Haddonfield, his home. It was that contrast that we feel the fan base may be longing for again and something they may be wanting to reinvent. Instead of trying to continue Zombie’s gritty style we see the studios remaking the franchise taking it into an entirely new direction, one where nostalgia meets brutality. It will have the Halloween stamp on it. It will cause fans in droves to go see it. It will continue on one of the greatest horror icons in history and most importantly it's a safe bet, it will make money. Again, you have to think of the dollars at the end of the day.

So with that being said, how would you feel to see a reboot of a reboot? Do you welcome the idea or does remaking something so many times tarnish the originality that still exists? Isn’t there a point when an idea becomes so used up that we as an audience just grow tired of it? Will that happen to Halloween and when is too many remakes too many? If we are rebooting a franchise every 5 or 10 years when does it stop? A lot to think about Bidites. We want to hear your thoughts on this topic. Let us know where you stand not just with Halloween (our example) but with remaking remakes in general. It’s time to be heard, Hollywood is listening.

Source: HorrorBid





80 comments

ShapeShifter
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06/11/10 @ 01:01
First off, this could be the single finest article I've read on this site to date. You said what I've been thinking and that's tough to capture in words. If I could do it I would be a writer instead of a Pepsi driver.

As for the remaking of remakes I would not put it past them at all and to be honest it's sad. A film is a work of art no matter how good or bad and that should stand on it's own.

If you want to remake something because it's dated I can see that being ok but we are tiptoeing on a fine line and that line is going to be crossed. I just hope it doesn't happen to Halloween even though I despised Rob Zombie's efforts.
Chris Behringer
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06/11/10 @ 01:15
Let it die. There hasn't been a "Halloween" film worth watching since part 4. Anything after that...*shudders*
Jennifer Taylor
06/11/10 @ 01:15
Please no more remake's of my favorite horror film series, But As long as it's not a Rob Zombie remake film then I will try to have a open mind.
Rose Sharpe
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06/11/10 @ 01:18
My problem with remakes is that once they are premiered on TV, they end up being shown more than the original. I can't remember the last time I seen the original "Psycho" on TV. Even on AMC they show the remake now. And in order to see the original "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", I had to rent it on video.

I do like Rob Zombie's Halloween though. He brought something different to it.
*****
06/11/10 @ 01:19
I SAY ITS MADE EXACTLY LIKE THE 78 VERSION BUT IN MODERN TIME OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES
Jessi Rode
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06/11/10 @ 01:39
i totally agree with Rose i love Rob Zombie movies!!
BrandyWine
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06/11/10 @ 01:48
Great read as always and I may be in the minority here but I would actually like to see the series remade again.
Devin Andres
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06/11/10 @ 01:55
The Devils Rejects was his best film I thought..Rob Zombie is a one man army!!
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06/11/10 @ 01:55
i must say the re-make bandwagon has taken over. not always a bad thing. i am getting tired of people shitting on rob zombies version. yes it was different, that was the point. it was awesome!! it was robs!! get over it. now i listen to people talk smack about the new nightmare on elm street. he doesn't look the same, waa!! it's not the same actor, waa!! no shit people! that is what a re-make is. not to mention, if you have ever seen a real burn victim, which i have. i had a really good frien in grade school who was burned over 80 percent of her body, that is what they look like!!grow up, deal with it or don't watch it!!!
i'm just saying....
Jessi Rode
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06/11/10 @ 01:55
DEFINATLEY!!!!
Pape R. Bullets
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06/11/10 @ 02:03
This isn't a horror flick I speak of, but "Death At A Funeral" was remade in less than 2 years after the original came out. That stands, right now, as the quickest remake of any movie ever. The remake came out a few months ago.
Colin Foster
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06/11/10 @ 02:03
You got to be fucking kidding me!
brooklynpsycho
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06/11/10 @ 02:10
I would love to see a reboot of a reboot, why the hell not. Even though I love both of Rob's Halloween, I wouldn't mind seeing another version of it. BRING IT!
*****
06/11/10 @ 02:13
Holy shit guys. That is a fucking Entertainment Weekly style article right here. I have been reading this site for a long time but that is a damn fine article. Kudos to the writers on this site and the artwork. I love the Halloween 3D graphic.

I could honestly give two shits about whether they remake the movie or not. I just like good reads and this was a good fucking read!

Evan
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06/11/10 @ 03:14
really if we go another way i mean away from Robs version i could be in to it but really let the story be lets make Halloween 9 or whatever we are at now come to go back to the old storys just dont let them suck or hell lets put michael with jason or freddy some how if you wanna make money thats the way to do it look at freddy vs jason that made more money then any one of the nightmare and friday movies alone so dollers sign to doller sign lets figure this out hollywood
halloweenfiend
06/11/10 @ 10:02
I agree with you about the setting.Michael Myers was created to be the boogeyman of the suburbs.While I find RZ's version entertaining,I felt the setting was lacking,especially in H2.
*****
06/11/10 @ 10:36
I think they should give it another shot. But seriously... lose the fucking 3D shit. Half the movies done in 3D are crap and exists solely to rake in the cash. I mean, it's not a bad idea, throwing the extra dollars on the tickets, after all, sometimes you get lucky, but when I go to watch I movie, I go for the story, I go to connect with the characters... And 3D is just an excuse to make a horrible film and hope that no one will notice, because they are dodging shit, with the ohhhh and the ahhhh. [laughs]

I liked the director's cut of H2. I thought it was a step up from the first, though the white horse shit was just kinda... meh. Like, what's the point? But other than that [thumbs up for Rob] But I think there is hope out there. Like you said, anyone can write a screenplay, and everyone on this site has the testicular fortitude to knock out a great script. Now get to work. lol

I think it deserves one more shot. If you hate it, you hate it, and they'll be the ones to suffer for it. But you may love it... It could end up being the breath of life that we are so desperately hoping for, and not the dying gasp of an amazing horror franchise.
06/11/10 @ 10:38
Btw, I meant Zombie's first attempt at Halloween (which I loathed) not the original. [nods]
JigsawJoe
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06/11/10 @ 10:45
I absolutely believe in remaking the remake if the first remake didn't satisfy (which it certainly did not). I did enjoy the remake, but it missed the WHOLE idea of what Myers was in Halloween 1 and 2.

If you go back and rewatch Halloween (1978), you'll see that Myers is far more of a stalker than a killer, with only five kills in the entire film, which he sees more as an art than a brutal rampage.

The one director I would trust to truly capture suspense and realism, and recreate the stalker vibe from Myers, is Bryan Bertino, the director of The Strangers. That film had only 2 kills by "the killers" in the whole film, and created an amazing sense of suspense the whole film without having a blood bath. It was certainly one of the best modern horror/slasher films of the decade.. hell, of the genre! If he was behind the script and direction of the film, there would be NO disappointment. Anyone else agree?
Tony Northrup
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06/11/10 @ 12:37
Tony Northrup I'm so sick of remakes it's not even funny. Hollywood is dieing because of this & T.V. shows turned into films. I say, make one last film in all the franchises, make it totally bad-ass, & SCARY (like old school scary), & then chop their damn heads off that way we know the franchise is finally done! And put in the contract that NO remakes can be ... See Moremade from this. That would truly make it final. I'm the type of film collector I believe if your gonna collect a franchise, you have to have them all (even the real bad sequels), but it would be nice just to have a set & be done wth it. I thought I did that with the Halloweens, Fridays.., & Nightmares, but now with remakes..it just keeps going & then THEY have sequels to them & it grows even more! The only way to stop a franchise is if people just don't go see it..period. The fim companies will see the low numbers & move on to something else. Just once I'd like to see a franchise end on a SOLID note & note a crappy sequel or fizzle out.
nightmareglove
06/11/10 @ 13:41
Thank god it's dead finally Hollywood needs to get there head out of there ass and come up with original and new ideas instead of living in the past and also quit making making everything 3D
CHARLIE Email
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06/11/10 @ 14:22
Rob Zombie remade it for his standards...lets see a remake 4 the fans ..go 4 it
Bobby Aimone
06/11/10 @ 15:04
I liked the Halloween remake, but they should really consider going back to the old series and build on it a bit more remakes are ok but they should have never revealed to much about THE SHAPE. THE ORIGINAL IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE BEST.
Jaz Davison · http://www.horrorbid.com
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06/11/10 @ 15:18
I think this is a good idea and all, trying to put together the good things for the vet films and the things people liked from the zombie films. we really do need to somewhat go back to the roots. I dont think people will get sick of halloween its to much of an icon. people are just sick of some of the crap they put in the movies is all. hey mybe one day someone will get the idea to make a sequal to resurrection and connect the missing parts from h6 with tommy and the baby........just an idea.
aaron
06/11/10 @ 15:29
They should continue from H20, anything after that was SHYT! I want to forget Halloween resurrection had anything to do with H20.
utubeslasher · http://frightstuff.com/
06/11/10 @ 16:28
i would love to see the brutality and violence of the RZ series injected into a clean suburbia H78esque haddonfield updated to fit the times Rob had a lot of positive aspects of his films that were overshadowed by the grime he added we need a more violent back to basics film
Bridge
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06/11/10 @ 16:52
I really love this story. Very well written and a lot of great points not just by HorrorBid but by all the input as well. I agree that the series would not but hurt if it were reboot to take on the old school feel of Halloween (Trick 'R Treat) type setting and add in some of the brutality of Roz Zombies movies. Good idea and one I could ceratinlty see benifiting the series.
MovieMan
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06/11/10 @ 17:27
You know this can be applied to all the horror remakes. Instead of sequels are we just going to be getting constant remakes, individual stories about the same character but the movies are unrelated and pay no attention to each other? Sort of like Jason Goes to Hell kind of, it doesn't pay any real attention to the other Friday movies.
Bridge
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06/11/10 @ 17:42
MovieMan you make a great point but the title of the article is The Halloween Franchise: Remaking the Remake.
MovieMan
06/11/10 @ 19:12
Yeah, I know what the title is :-)~ I wasn't meaning to bust anybody for talking just halloween since that's the topic, just saying the discussion can easily be expanded.
Corey Gate
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06/11/10 @ 19:35
Great read and I for one am behind a H3D remake if it's done right by the right director. I love 3D movies, you can get into them ore it feels like so I like that aspect.

As for MovieMan's comments. Friday the 13th could use the remake as well. I wasn't a fan of the original and frankly the remake is garbage. I like the idea of Jason don't get me wrong, but he needs the right treatment.
*****
06/11/10 @ 19:39
The Halloween franchise has gone to crap but I think it can be brought back. I like what TheShape1188 says about just taking Carpenter's story and modernizing WITHOUT excessive gore and vulgarity (and a stupid backstory). Switch it upa little though, change the story around just a little bit to make it fresh. The main focus of ANY Halloween movie should be the SEASON of Halloween. A Halloween movie needs to feel like it is actually taking place on/around Halloween with the scenery and music.
Sam Alexander
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06/11/10 @ 19:52
DrenTheLiar you just said what I have been thinking and couldn't find the words to express so I didn't post to this. But your 100% right. Everyone Halloween film should feel like Halloween. And Rob Zombie's films didn't feel like Halloween to me. Like someone else said earlier, take Trick 'R Treat. The setting of that movie and add Michael Myers to the mix, perfect!
Hunter Hayes
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06/11/10 @ 20:06
Remaks of remakes are pointless. Why reboot a series if you're only going to reboot that reboot a couple years later. Hollywood is gonna make it impossible to remember classic series' the way they should be.
06/11/10 @ 20:49
first off, I think remaking a remake of halloween is a bad idea, liked what rob did in the first one, it was not so far off from the original, and at this point i've gotten attached to the new actor's and plot, which I didn't think would happen. it never felt fake, and if they try to make it again, it will remind me that it's just another movie.
*****
06/11/10 @ 20:51
I think we have to wonder where will it end? If everyone who disagrees with a particular filmmakers vision turns around and creates his own vision,It will dilute an already suffering genre.I think that studios are going for the easy money to often and our cattle mentality is the cause.I am not against remakes as such,but once is enough for a while.I am afraid that our genre is falling victim to "Boy Band Syndrome" which is the music industry's knack for over saturating the market with similar product until the market sours.The Horror genre is already the stepchild of the film industry and crap like remaking remakes will probably confirm the low opinion our skeptics have for us and the genre we love.
Jasonlivessince1980
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06/11/10 @ 23:03
I am against Hollywood's repetition of reboots. If anything independent filmmakers should put their mark on Michael, Jason, etc., bring the franchises back to their indie roots and make them actual films again with real atmosphere, believable characters and good directing.

Little known fact, if you remake the remake of a remake a tear will appear in the fabric of timespace and Michael Myers will appear to cut Hollywood execs to ribbons. Its true.
06/11/10 @ 23:52
damn! remake halloween a 2nd time again? i wanted to make my own halloween movies and make it 10 times better than both Rz's and carpenter's lol. Yeah i cant believe this B.S, talking bout makin this shit redone a 2nd time. If its going to be done a 2nd time then dont call it halloween 3d, call it halloween or the 1st halloween or some shit. But Jared Meacham should be writer, producer, director, and screenwriter.
06/12/10 @ 00:47
I think this shit should be done again and if that happens heres my cast:


laurie: ellen page or kristen stewart

michael myers: john corbett

samuel loomis: anthony hopkins or tobin bell

annie: jennifer love hewitt

lynda: reese witherspoon

idk who the fuck else. lol
Harv
*****
06/12/10 @ 01:01
As always guys, great article!! :) To be honest I could care less if the remake of a remake is reinvisioned, rehashed and re-released. To see horror on the screen is my second love, regardless of its tyle. Sometimes the remakes are pretty bad ass other time ... well not so much. Its cool to be honest, (I didnt use to think this way minid you, it took me some time to come around), but think about it. Our beloved horror icons have reached legend status. How many times did they do a Dracula, Frankenstien or Wolfman film back in the day? Can you even count the number of films JUST titled Dracula ? So, hell yeah, bring it on, make a thousand different spins and keep putting our Legends on the screen. My first love still being Indie Horror, but I understand the decission on proven franchises. Im just saying, as long as horror is thriving, Im down with how ever its presented, as long as its presented well.
ashton
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06/12/10 @ 03:28
in my opinion, remaking a film thsts already been remade is a serious waste. rob zombie has already reinvented the michael myers franchise and actually made it better thhan ever before. and frankly, after seeing laurie (a.k.a. "angel") becoming crazy like michael i'm curious as to where they could go with that and starting again from scratch would just ruin that
ashton Email
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06/12/10 @ 03:29
in my opinion, remaking a film thsts already been remade is a serious waste. rob zombie has already reinvented the michael myers franchise and actually made it better thhan ever before. and frankly, after seeing laurie (a.k.a. "angel") becoming crazy like michael i'm curious as to where they could go with that and starting again from scratch would just ruin that
kevin
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06/12/10 @ 04:44
good article :) but seriously enough is enough .... i want to see someone create an original character taht just takes us all by suprise as being a new horror icon for us.. i love jason michael and freddy and those were our characters when we were younger but hollywood just stop... ur activly killing the image and the value of those movies and i can go anywhere these days and see a michael myers mask and someone saying oh yeah dude rob zombie created michael myers... its fucking horrible...

isay give a good director and a good writer and some imagination and no bullshit and create something new something awesome something just badass
that gets our attention and that can really make us love then ull be going in the right direction.. but thisremake and 3d shit and remaking aremake is fucking old and KILLING horror movies one by one .. FUCKING FRIGHTNIGHT ....
DAKAZA
06/12/10 @ 13:08
I love to see different visions, so I'm all for it. For instance, I absolutely loved Elm Street remake but I think it would be extremely awesome if they did another remake with Craven and Englund. I think Craven would love to do it.
Throwdown10/31
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06/12/10 @ 14:18
I totally agree with TheShape1188
*****
06/12/10 @ 15:29
Remaking something so many times can tarnish the flame of the originality. And I do love this article, and Rob Zombie did his work as a brave step into the dark vision of the psychotic. He also layed out michael's persona and let us into his mind a little. Some may say this film sucked, but in RZ's two part series he gave us the insight into michael's unaswered questions,and we learned some new stuff about him. With that said another Halloween Remake would not make as much as Rob Zombie's Halloween Made on Labor Day Weekend. Personally if they do make another remake. It's time those rich scumbags let the unknowns take a shot. Think about it, every successful horror film was made with unknown actors,and directors. This is the magic of Slasher films. Throw in one big star for a small role and add a bunch of fresh new talent. That's the key. To show us new freah things. Not something big budget with alot of special effects. Old fashioned slasher. I say to you, fellow Bidites, lets show Hollywood we know as fans what we are talking about. Films Are Art, not a stock. So I myself say, lets hold a contest maybe? Make our own scripts and post them here, for horrorbid to read. Then they can show those bloodsucking filmmakers how a real old fashioned film remake is for the fans. Not an easy buck. Email me at MikeMontana7@yahoo.com with your answers and script ideas. Maybe, just maybe we can put these crappy remakes in a coffin and put the nail to those bastardized creations! To show films are meant for the thrill, art and fantasy. Not an easy buck! Who's with me? I'm sure hoping HorrorBid hears me out! Iam sick of these remakes. They kill the series. Ruin the flame of the tourch, and dismantle the establishing order to making good films. So I ask you fellow commenters to email me and tell me what you think. We can stop this! All we need is a Army of angry fans!
06/12/10 @ 16:05
I agree with Jigsaw Joe. I think the director of 'The Strangers' could pull it off. That movie was so OUT THERE, I loved it. Not at first, at first I was like, wtf, dude. [laughs] So yeah, I could so see that.

And again, please, no 3D. 3D's not scary, it's just fuckin' silly. If you want to make a 3D movie, do Titanic. I'd love to see Leo sink in 3D. XD
tim
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06/12/10 @ 16:28
remaking the remake is a good decision.i did enjoy robzombie version as well.the thing thats gets me is why couldnt they finished first the original halloween series.yea resuurection did suck ass....but give the true micheal his well deserve death scene.jason had his and so did freddy.but idk no matter what im a true fan of the myers family.
Charles
06/12/10 @ 22:59
I am in favor of a remake. I think it should be done
for the fans. Lots of us want it to happen, no disrespect to Rob Zombie, but he did take the Boogeyman and turn him into a giant hobo with anger issues instead of the EVIL enigma that John Carpenter
created. I say let it happen and give it to someone who can capture the essence of the original and put it into this time period. Thank you.
mikey
06/12/10 @ 23:02
Yes! Do it, and please do it right. Why not copy the original, they did it with Psycho.
MASK4ME
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06/13/10 @ 01:12
If they want to make 20 remakes of halloween Im sure I would watch them all.Im not sure about the 3D thing though.
Michael
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06/13/10 @ 18:21
another remake should be done, i don't think it would be a disapointment. Rob Zombie showed us his side to the story, but it shouldnt be clasified as an official remake. The movie should keep remaking every halloween! on another note, i would really enjoy seeing a sequel to "Halloween Resurrection"! the orginal story can't just end like that!
denis
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06/13/10 @ 19:24
yes i whould like to see the halloween franchise redone again i love rob zombies work but hes not tha right man for the job but i have to give him this he did tell the story of how mike myers got that way but the halloween movies have to have a good story and tyler mane is a great michel myers and if they are going to make it again get wes craven to direct
Andrew
06/14/10 @ 00:23
ok instead of making another sequel to the Rob Zombie remake( which sucked, especiallry RZ's H2) make another movie to the old series continuing Halloween: Resurrection. As you know michael kills his family and he wont stop until he kills all of them. well michael still has 2 relatives still alive. stephen lloyd from halloween 6 and john tate from halloween h20. plus michael woke up at the end of halloween : resurrection so you know hes alive.so just continue the old series. you could also throw in a storyline for a michael vs jason or freddy. or all three of them. you never know. so continue the old series.
thommy soisson · http://yahoo.com
06/15/10 @ 05:32
I'm sick of remakes. Sequals aren't so bad, but remakes... Hollywood has run out of originality. There aren't many independent film makers left except for all those straight to video dollors bin movies. All these stupid producers want to take a good idea and mangle it to what they think is good all the while knowing that they are usually WRONG! Let the younger generation infuse the business with some fresh creativity or at least remake some of those movies that should be remade. And whats with all this rebooting ? If it's working then why start over just to probably screw it all up ? The Weinstiens use to produce something worth seeing. Now all there doing is waiting around for Quentin Tarantino to make another movie so they can cash in and say ""Hey we did it again. We're bloody brillient".
I'm starting to like indie straight to videos movies a whole lot more because the directors have more control and creative control.
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06/15/10 @ 17:44
i think this forget about remakes and how ur ideads would make the movie better and start fresh. if u have the money to do a remake. u have the money to start something new. honestly im sick of remakes. make something NEW! u cant tell me a movie from the 80's is all ur going to work on. stop wasting ur time and something fresh.
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06/15/10 @ 17:46
i think this forget about remakes and how ur ideads would make the movie better and start fresh. if u have the money to do a remake. u have the money to start something new. honestly im sick of remakes. make something NEW! u cant tell me a movie from the 80's is all ur going to work on. stop wasting ur time and start something fresh.
Marco Antonio Garcia
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06/17/10 @ 11:00
I love remakes. I mean, not all remakes obviously, but the idea of it, to be able to see your favorite movie in a new way, with newer and more sophisticate effects, e.g.
Some remakes are very good, and others are not, but for me is always nice to be able to see some of my favorites like Freddy Krueger and Leatherface on the cinema and in a new movie again.
Regarding the creativity issue, there are tons of new creative ideas from moviemakers all other the world in every genre, just look for it.
And if you do not like remakes just don't watch it, I don't know why there are so many people against the idea, as the original movie is still going to be there, it is only going to be more accessible and more interesting to the newer generations, that are accustomed to a different pace, esthetic, effects, e.g.
steanax
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06/17/10 @ 11:59
THIS IS THE BEST PART OF THIS,,,YOU FUCKING PPL CRY OVER SOMETHING U HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. STOP FUCKING CRYING,,IF THEY REMAKE/REBOOT THESES MOVIES WHO THE FUCK CARES??? ONLY U PPL. THE ORIGINAL "HALLOWEEN WAS BORING AS HELL PLAIN AND SIMPLE. ROB ZOMBIE'S MICHEAL MYERS WAS FUCKING SICK,,I WISH THERE WAS SOMEONE LIKE HIM OUT THERE TO FIND YOU FUCKING CRYING ASS MOTHERFUCKERS AND SLICE AND DICE U ALL,,UR FUCKING CRYING OVER A FUCKING MOVIE. FUCK HALLOWEEN, FUCK U PPL,,LET IT GO. GET ON WITH WHATEVER U DO IN LIFE..FOR ME I LOVE SEEING THESE ICON'S BACK ON THE BIG SCREEN,,JUST AS LONG AS THEY DONT OVER DO IT...SO JUST STOP CRYING ABOUT THIS ALREADY,,DAMN GIVE IT A REST NOW.....
06/18/10 @ 03:36
I have a plot if i were to remake Halloween, its a plot to switch around the thorn cult, it dont make much sense but neither did the fucking thorn. If i made Halloween Michael's mom would be Debbie she would of been a devil worshipper and because of that Michael was born evil then she has a beliefe that murdering family is a blessing and so she has Michael murder Judith then wants him to murder Laurie. Yeah its kinda fucking stupid.
the devil's eyes
06/21/10 @ 01:46
there should be a plot where pinhead is summoned from his box along with the wishmaster and warlock, and they raise a kid named michael myers and make him all demonic and shit, giving him toys such as chucky and puppet master dolls, then carve the samhain symbol into his wrist and possess him into killing his whole fuckin family. i think thats how it should really go down. oh, and in the end michael should scratch his mask off revealing pumpkinhead!!!
RecceR
06/21/10 @ 03:08
The Halloween remake was alright, not great but alright. They messed up bye letting Rob Zombie have anything to do with the sequel. What a pile of s#*!.

They need to redeem this suffering franchise, but I think they need to wait at least 4 more years (get everything perfect before pre-production). Its too soon after the brutal horror that real fans went through having to watch H2. Nobody will take a remake of the Halloween remake seriously less than 10 years after it came out. especially because of H2.
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06/21/10 @ 19:46
look. im a hardcore fan of the original halloween storyline and in my personal opinion they need to go back to either H20 or ressurrection and bridge the gap between 6 and 7. then they can make one more halloween movie and end it. i believe they should go back to jason's original franchise as well as leatherface, freddy, and leave chucky alone. but as far as continuing the remakes franchises or remaking the remakes i say NO. Let Michael go out in style and everone else carry on with there marry murderous lives. i mean shit there was only 3 TCMs in the first series ( dont u fucking dare bring up the "next generation remake" ) and it has room to grow as does every other slasher. But dammit Michael is thed original and the best and he has to fucking go out in stlye!!!
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06/23/10 @ 17:07
Ok, I have to say, I loved the original Halloween, but I also loved Rob Zombie's version. Although they're different, they're both good in their own way. Not everyone is going to be pleased. if they were to remake Halloween exactly the same, it might not be liked. What worked 32 years ago may not work for today. Then, if it's different, people complain. I think more people should go into watching a remake with open minds. Maybe they'll at least kind of enjoy it instean of having it in their heads that "it's going to suck", because if you have that one thought about something, of course you're not going to like it. You already have it in your head that you're not going to.If you have an open mind, you'll be more appreciative of what's being put out.
Moon
06/23/10 @ 17:40
I've seen all the Halloween movies even the remakes and I think the first 2 were great really cult classics but the 3rd through the 6th one was really dumb H2O was great but they left out alot of crucial iformation they could've made Resurrection alot differently. When Rob Zombie made the remakes he did an outstanding job in describing certain information that wasn't in the first 2 but I think we should be done with all of the Halloween movies their are no more ways to kill him off so we need to let it go..
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06/29/10 @ 20:08
I think the only person who can save the franchise is Christopher Nolan. He saved the batman franchise and maybe he can save the Halloween franchise. I wish someone could get this idea to the Weinsteins.
hollywood la merde
07/07/10 @ 04:44
If we want to remaking the remake its an exellent decision !!!!!!!
Bonne decision de remaker ce remake on devrait fair la meme chose pour A nigthmare on elm street 2010 qui était vraiment nul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ATTENTION:In youtube ;I found a video (in french)where the serials killers ottis tool tell he and henry(serial killer) kidnaped a child for movies of.....HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!!
DON'T JOKE !!!!!!
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07/08/10 @ 21:16
FUCK Rob Zombie! That dude sucks!
I say fuckin' go for it and remake his fuckin' piece a' shit!

His "House of 1000 Corpses" is STILL by far the obnoxiously worst fucking movie (not limited to just horror films) that I have ever seen in my fucking life!
And have you ever seen his fucking stage performances!? It's just a clutter of robots and bullshit to distract from his total lack of talent and retarded lyrics.

Anyway!.. Look what happened with "The Incredible Hulk (2008)" after that piss-awful "Hulk (2003)"! And that super Emo version of "The Punisher (2004)" was redid and they made the kick-ass "Punisher: War Zone (2008)"!
NotAmerican
07/11/10 @ 18:17

"And again, please, no 3D. 3D's not scary, it's just fuckin' silly. If you want to make a 3D movie, do Titanic. I'd love to see Leo sink in 3D."

They are. In April 2012, to coincide with the 100th anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic, they are theatrically re-releasing Titanic... in 3-D. Oh happy day.
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07/15/10 @ 03:59
i dont think that the Halloween series will ever run out, cause dude, if a director comes out and say that he's making a remake of a historic title like Halloween and but the director makes an exact replica of the original version just a line up of a different cast the script is just like the original version then the fans who watched the original movie and then they gonna see the new one then people is gonna expect whats gonna happen next. But then a smart director makes the remake of the movie then he wil have to give it a new fill his own version then you are not gonna expect the same. you get what im sayin, a movie that recently came out like DragonBall Evolution, if your a fan of the cartoon series then you would expect the movie to be good, but the movie actually didnt live up to its nAME and it was a fail. i think that if you make a remake of something then you should throw in as much of your version as possible but while keeping to the original gist or idea of the franchise of dragonball z
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07/17/10 @ 09:15
This is the best article i've read on this site, I fully support the "resurrection" of myers.
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07/18/10 @ 18:20
i loved rob zombies h1 and h2 i dont want him to quit what he started thats so stupid thats a quiter right there he did great with those 2 halloweens and i dont want the series to end i want to see how lori tuns out like shes mental now wonder whats going to happen in h3 i think it will be good i cant wait dont stop making them patrick lussier horrible director please why him put zombie back or let john carpentar do it one more time lol and guys when i grow up be ready to see a [michael myers vs jason] film because i want to be a director so just wait i will make one so everyvody is happy how about that because no good directors is making that so i will peace out
Sam
07/21/10 @ 04:47
If you think of the entertainment industry as a pyramid with the producers on the top and the talent on the bottom what slowly happened over the course of thirty years was it flipped. If he were starting in today's film business John Carpenter would only be known by his YouTube short films.

No. I don't think they should remake Halloween again. They don't have an original vision for it and they don't want one. Producers want a slick, safe product they can control. This is about the farthest thing from art you can get.

Could a Halloween remake be fantastic? Yes it could. But you'd have to make an uncomfortably violent art movie that pissed off every fan of the series. You'd have to make his mask more abstract, you'd have to make him completely inhuman (think Lovecraft's The Thing On The Doorstep) and you'd have to delve into the existential and the spiritual dealing with a villain that's a conduit of all evil, misrule and destruction. You'd feel his presence before you ever saw him; that deep primal rage that sucks all the air out of a room making it very cold. Myers is not a man. If you shot him in the heart he'd bleed black.

Personally though I don't understand why producers keep their remakes dumb; they'll make a million dollars anyway. I think they're just afraid to let movies be dangerous by saying how they really feel. People just might learn something about their own innate destructive feelings and find the experience of watching the movie cathartic. Then the producers would have to start topping their achievements with more complex morality plays written by actual writers and would finally get to the point where they'd gotten so good that disappointment was inevitable... So they figure fuck it. Why try? Audiences will eat any gruel you put in front of them. And that's the film industry today.
colby ornelas
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07/22/10 @ 14:00
I HOPE ROB ZOMBIE DOING IT ;)
mikey
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08/27/10 @ 22:20
Please do it.
Kevins_fury
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09/13/10 @ 12:24
I personally didn't like Rob's take on Halloween. Didn't like the fact that he made the whole Myers family a bunch of white trash a@@holes! That Loomis was all about exploiting and making money of Michael. And Michael being picked-on as a kid! It made me feel sorry for him instead of being scared of him. So I say go ahead with a reboot and make it more in-tune with Carpenter's H78!!!!!
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10/15/10 @ 11:04
cheers for the post. I've been a reader
10/19/10 @ 10:38
They say that Coca Cola is cheaper than water in some places in Africa. Madness!
Charles
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05/08/11 @ 20:16
Has anyone heard if they are still exploring another remake of Halloween, or if they are going to make any more Halloween movies at all?
IHateCellphones
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11/10/11 @ 23:46
the whiny bitches can complain all they want they will be commies and i will defend what ever Halloween comes out

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