Horror Needs More Rape/Revenge Flicks

[aceofspades70]

Coffee anyone?

2 sugars please.

coming right up...

[DEmeryTaylor]

Wow, so ... I've been a reader of this site for the last four or five years and this is the first post I've ever responded to. I take interest in this particular subject because I'm an actor/filmmaker who is currently preparing to film a paranormal rape/revenge picture this August. (That's not just a shameless plug ... I was just giving a reason for my response.)

First of all, I take issue with the implication that only misogynists and sociopaths like these films. My wife loves them. She enjoys watching people do horrible things and then get their just rewards. I understand that this particular genre is not for everyone but stereotyping the ones who do enjoy them makes you no different than the old woman who thinks you worship Satan because she saw you at the store in a Metallica t-shirt. It's ignorant.

Secondly, someone made mention that these films never show the aftermath of rape, the psychological torture and broken life that follows. I would counter that horror films seldom show the aftermath of anything. We never see Charlie trying to explain why his best friend and the nice gay couple next door have been staked to death. We fade out and then fade back in on a happy ending.

I totally understand the topic making people uncomfortable. I think that discomfort is the reason why some filmmakers choose to utilize the issue. I find it curious how most horror fans will laugh, clap, and enjoy watching dozens of human beings mowed down, mutilated and murdered. Yet, rape remains quite the taboo. Is rape worse than murder? "Rape and violence against women is a real problem!" Indeed it is. So is murder. "How do you think it makes rape victims feel when they see a film like I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE?" How does the family member of a murder victim feel when they see HALLOWEEN? I think rape/revenge films are pure horror at their core. Why? The subject is horrific. It evokes strong feelings of dread and disgust in audiences. It makes people uneasy. It should.

But we'll watch people get murdered and think nothing of it. We enjoy it. We sometimes even get bored with it.

I'm not saying we need a flood of rape/revenge movies on the market but it is a valid sub-genre and remains one of the last true shocks of cinema.

[aceofspades70]

Wow, so ... I've been a reader of this site for the last four or five years and this is the first post I've ever responded to. I take interest in this particular subject because I'm an actor/filmmaker who is currently preparing to film a paranormal rape/revenge picture this August. (That's not just a shameless plug ... I was just giving a reason for my response.)

First of all, I take issue with the implication that only misogynists and sociopaths like these films. My wife loves them. She enjoys watching people do horrible things and then get their just rewards. I understand that this particular genre is not for everyone but stereotyping the ones who do enjoy them makes you no different than the old woman who thinks you worship Satan because she saw you at the store in a Metallica t-shirt. It's ignorant.

Secondly, someone made mention that these films never show the aftermath of rape, the psychological torture and broken life that follows. I would counter that horror films seldom show the aftermath of anything. We never see Charlie trying to explain why his best friend and the nice gay couple next door have been staked to death. We fade out and then fade back in on a happy ending.

I totally understand the topic making people uncomfortable. I think that discomfort is the reason why some filmmakers choose to utilize the issue. I find it curious how most horror fans will laugh, clap, and enjoy watching dozens of human beings mowed down, mutilated and murdered. Yet, rape remains quite the taboo. Is rape worse than murder? "Rape and violence against women is a real problem!" Indeed it is. So is murder. "How do you think it makes rape victims feel when they see a film like I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE?" How does the family member of a murder victim feel when they see HALLOWEEN? I think rape/revenge films are pure horror at their core. Why? The subject is horrific. It evokes strong feelings of dread and disgust in audiences. It makes people uneasy. It should.

But we'll watch people get murdered and think nothing of it. We enjoy it. We sometimes even get bored with it.

I'm not saying we need a flood of rape/revenge movies on the market but it is a valid sub-genre and remains one of the last true shocks of cinema.

Thanks for chiming in DEmery. Good point you have made here, and I see that you guys are adding additional cast. Hopefully this will be a successful shoot for you all. Looking forward to seeing it. (this is Lee by the way)

Yes, we all have our own liking whether it be slasher, psychological, etc. for horror films. We should all be able to discuss them without it becoming personal.

[dew]

Yes, we all have our own liking whether it be slasher, psychological, etc. for horror films. We should all be able to discuss them without it becoming personal.

^^^ This x10 ^^^

Also:
@DEmeryTaylor, RE: Aftermath
One thing I cannot stand is when films go to a series and never deal with the obvious aftermath of, like you said, what would seem random murders and disappearances. I think a film can end without touching on it - sort of indicating that it might be a problem in the future but really isn't relevant to the story they were trying to tell - but once you hit onto a sequel or series, its bound to come up.

A lot of supernatural television series have been really good with dealing with that sort of thing; you saw the loss of credibility for the FBI agents in X-Files straight away, the Buffy series started out on an aftermath note with the heroine going to a new school with a lot of baggage from her old one, and Supernatural has its lead characters constantly hounded by law enforcement for what seem to be murders, etc.

Way off topic, I realize, but still an interesting thought.

[AgnesItsMeBilly]

Wow, so ... I've been a reader of this site for the last four or five years and this is the first post I've ever responded to. I take interest in this particular subject because I'm an actor/filmmaker who is currently preparing to film a paranormal rape/revenge picture this August. (That's not just a shameless plug ... I was just giving a reason for my response.)

First of all, I take issue with the implication that only misogynists and sociopaths like these films. My wife loves them. She enjoys watching people do horrible things and then get their just rewards. I understand that this particular genre is not for everyone but stereotyping the ones who do enjoy them makes you no different than the old woman who thinks you worship Satan because she saw you at the store in a Metallica t-shirt. It's ignorant.

Secondly, someone made mention that these films never show the aftermath of rape, the psychological torture and broken life that follows. I would counter that horror films seldom show the aftermath of anything. We never see Charlie trying to explain why his best friend and the nice gay couple next door have been staked to death. We fade out and then fade back in on a happy ending.

I totally understand the topic making people uncomfortable. I think that discomfort is the reason why some filmmakers choose to utilize the issue. I find it curious how most horror fans will laugh, clap, and enjoy watching dozens of human beings mowed down, mutilated and murdered. Yet, rape remains quite the taboo. Is rape worse than murder? "Rape and violence against women is a real problem!" Indeed it is. So is murder. "How do you think it makes rape victims feel when they see a film like I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE?" How does the family member of a murder victim feel when they see HALLOWEEN? I think rape/revenge films are pure horror at their core. Why? The subject is horrific. It evokes strong feelings of dread and disgust in audiences. It makes people uneasy. It should.

But we'll watch people get murdered and think nothing of it. We enjoy it. We sometimes even get bored with it.

I'm not saying we need a flood of rape/revenge movies on the market but it is a valid sub-genre and remains one of the last true shocks of cinema.

excellent points! Many of which i was trying to make earlier in this thread but i'm just not that articulate lol

[Darkgotheyed]

Well, to start I just got to say I love all four movies !! That being said I understand where a lot of people even horror lovers can view these as torture porn or trash. However, I don't think that at all I think these movies have their place just like any movie that bends the rules and puts it in your face does and of course, there are going to be truly sick people out there watching them, but that can be said about any gore fest of a movie. I mean I've seen things way worse, and I think a lot of people here have the fact is rape is a truly horrifying thing, and a lot of people find it hard to believe that a "normal" horror lover would like a movie like this, but I can say without a doubt they can !! My own mother who HATES horror movies other than the scream series lol loved the re make of Last house on the left and again with my sister she watched the re make of I spit on your grave (Day of the woman) and she doesn't like horror movies and when I turned them on or in my mothers, case went to the movies with me to see it at the end they were cheering the girl/parents on and for me that is what these movies are about !! They show us those primal emotions of rage and revenge and its rightful. I mean I highly doubt anyone here would send that girl or her parents away for what they did these movies base them self's on not just a horrible thing but on the outcome and that HECK YEAH feeling as do a lot of the great horror movies. As I said I understand why some people will always bash these movies and movies like them but in my eyes, the fact that these people get what is coming to them in the end, and it's not just okay let's show her get raped and kill her, and that was the main point to show people rape or at least I don't think so, and I know a lot of people are going to disagree with me, but that's what I think and I will cheer these girls on to the end. So yes I would like to see more movies like this, but I'm not going to sit through a movie just to watch a girl or even a guy get raped just for the sake of showing a rape in my opinion there is a big difference and I've been sickened by movies that do just that. :Freddy:

[Detective Cameron]

I like rape & revenge movies.. fuck all these haters.